In this episode you’ll hear:

• How the Fear of Success is connected to the Fear of Being Seen and what contributes to it.
• Elena’s simple practices that helped her overcome the Fear of Being Seen.
• Elena’s personal story of overcoming her Fear of Being Seen — her journey from childhood trauma to being behind the scenes to pursuing her passion of energy medicine and speaking and writing to audiences of 1000s.
• Elena’s process for reading a client’s energy field to detect emotional blocks and pinpoint physical challenges — so that you feel more energetic, aligned and whole on the levels of mind, body and spirit.
• How Elena’s intuitive gifts started to unfold and how she came to trust the intuitive information she was receiving about others to help them heal.

About Elena Bensonoff

Elena Bensonoff is an award-winning holistic practitioner, consultant pharmacist and the founder of Wholistic, Inc. As a pioneer in the fields of functional, regenerative and energy medicine, she has been sharing her gift for healing for over 20 years. She is the author of Wholistic Wisdom: Awakening Your Inner Healer and her expertise has been sought out by and featured on media outlets including Elephant Journal, Mindvalley, iHeartRADIO, Daily Grind, Soulvana and NBC News.

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Transcript:

Christie:
Elena Benson Hoff joins me today. As we talk about how to Align on every level of your mind, body and spirit. We’ll also talk about how the fear of success is connected to the fear of being seen and her simple practices that helps her overcome that fear of being seen. And we’ll also talk about her intuitive gifts and how they started to unfold. And how is she came to trust the information she was receiving about other’s to help them heal. Alena is an award winning holistic practitioner, a consultant pharmacist, and the founder of Wholistic Inc. She’s a pioneer in the field of functional regenerative and energy Wisdom. And she’s been doing that for over 20 years.

Christie:
She is also the author of Wholistic Wisdom and has been featured on media outlets, including Elephant Journal Mind Valley, our I heart radio Daily Grind Soulvana and NBC News.

Christie:
All right. Welcome. Elena to the show.

Elena:
Thank you so much for having me on your show.

Christie:
Yeah, your welcome. So we have a really fun episode plan talking about Abundance and how to overcome the fear of being successful. So whenever I hear someone say, Oh, you have the fear of success, or, you know, it always doesn’t, it just doesn’t hit me in the right spot. I’m like, what does that mean? Because fear of failure is so obvious. Like, you know, you can resonate with that, but how could someone possibly be afraid of being successful? What does that even mean?

Elena:
Yeah, no, that’s a, that’s a really great a question. And I would say, I would say this from me. I think the biggest fear was I was saying that Success, but to be Seen, to be seen and to be exposed.

Elena:
And I would say that most people probably are afraid of having success or a fear of success because they’re afraid to be seen at least as far as I, I could tell I’m based on many of my friends who were intrepreneurs and who are, and it’s very easy to fall into the category of being on-scene and the work that you do. And for me, for many years, it was working behind the counter and the pharmacy, whether it was compounding or consulting with as many patients or a diabetes clinic, it, it was kind of comfortable having a, a salary and going to work every other day. A pharmacist don’t normally work every day with every other day in every other weekend, for me, the shifts that I used to work, but they were very, very long days.

Elena:
And I quickly realized probably over 10 years of working as a pharmacist, that I wanted a change in my life. And I didn’t like the retail aspect of it. And then of course, I went into the world of energy medicine and functional anti-aging medicine. And I realized that this is where my passion was. But then the biggest fear was how to connect to your passion and, and make that a Success right and not allow the fear of unknown stop you from what you truly want in your life. And for me, I definitely had to overcome my own fears of while I have my career. I have a certain amount of income.

Elena:
Everything is predictable leaving all of that behind and saying to myself, this is who I am. This is what I love and following my passion. So which led me to starting Wholistic and consulting with people and working with people all around the world. So the mission is really to balance body, mind, and soul and eliminate chronic illness. So whatever passion you have, I believe that that that can be your success is following your passion, your love of your heart, aligning with that. And that is what makes you a successful person. So I think success is also defined to different people in different ways.

Christie:
Yeah, much like the word abundance, you know, when you hear the word abundance. So that means so many different things to so many different people. So what are some ways that you can, someone could define success?

Elena:
I can tell you how I define success is waking up and having absolute excitement enjoys to start my day, whether it’s Monday, Tuesday, Saturday, Sunday, I love what I do. And I would say what I do is an extension of who I am. So to me, that is success is having joy and love and inspiration that comes from the inside out. I don’t feel that anyone is blocking me. I don’t feel blocked where I wake up and I, I don’t, I’m not inspired to do what I do. So that is Success to me.

Christie:
That’s great. And you’ve had a lot of clients, like what are other ways that people have defined success? Whether it, whether it’s true for them or not, like maybe they have an idea of what they think Success is. And then they go through the transformation with you and realized that, Oh, wait, you know, now I think success is this.

Elena:
So I would say probably we’ll put people in a bubble and I never liked to do that, but we have people, I think success will be monetary success. And that’s the only success that they do that they can define and connect with what I’ve realized over the years, I worked with many, many people that have had successful companies that have had successful careers. And I’m putting quotation marks around Success that were living in very unhealthy relationships, having absolute chaos in their body. So their health was not imbalanced. So to me again, success is really when you’re aligning all of those aspects within yourself.

Elena:
So whether it’s your career or your relationship or your health, all of that is connected. So you cannot define success based just on money. Because if that is the driving force of, of how you define success, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Yeah.

Christie:
Yeah. Because it can become part of your identity and you’re not your bank account. Right. Is that just so much bigger than that? Yes. Yeah. So walk me through a typical process that someone will go through when they’re realigning themselves. Wow. That’s a big, it is a big question. I know what you’re talking about alignment. And I’m like, well, how do we go about doing that? So they’re out of alignment. Let’s start.

Elena:
Yeah. I will share our story with you. Actually, they had a brand new client on the road to me. She just felt compelled to reach out and work with me. And then one of my questions on the assessment form that I have everyone fill out, it says, what is it that you wanted to work on? And she said, I don’t know. I don’t know what I don’t know. And then like, what, what do you feel is is wrong or that needs a shifting in your life. Again, her answer was, I don’t know why. And she said to me actually, after having a call and I read her entire energy field, so what I’ll do is I read the more for genetic field of a human being that because we’re not just a one dimensional or, you know, being in a physical body, which is the vehicles through which we experience life.

Elena:
But it’s also looking at your soul aspects of your emotions, your mental state of being there’s so much to a lesser than what we perceive just with our physical eyes, right. Or our five senses. So for her, it was amazing to discover that there were all of these blockages that she had. And a lot of it stems from trauma. So whether you experienced trauma as a child, or there was a vent in a situation that left an imprint in your field, and therefore you made a decision for example, to live your life in fear. And that is your norm. So let’s say you’re 46 years old. And the trauma happened to you when you were five. So that means for over 40 years, you’ve lived your life and think that this is the normal way of living.

Elena:
So you basically a constant state of fight or flight. And that actually goes across the board and your relationships in your health, right? So this particular person, and again, every case has separate and individualized and customized. She has a lot have gut issues. Ah, we discovered that has adrenal fatigue. So she gets tired a lot. Then she is having mood swings. So all of that is related. And in order to work and align yourself with whatever desires, dreams, inspirations that you have, it’s very difficult to Align when you have chaos in your vehicle, the divine vehicle, which is your body. So it’s crucial to begin to clear your diet, get rid of toxins.

Elena:
So the energy can flow much easier and you can actually sense yourself and every Level. And I’ll give you an example. And that’s the example I usually give to all of the clients I work with. So if you imagine that your mind is the CEO of a company, you’re a company and your soul aspect is the vision and mission in life. And then your organs, right? Your organ systems, your body parts are actually your employee’s. So when the mind where the CEO has to constantly battle with chaos or inflammation that is happening in the company, right? The last thing that the CEO and your mind can focus on is the mission and vision in life.

Elena:
So therefore every case is different, but it’s important to balance out the chaos that’s happening in the body. It’s important to bring self love into it. And I’m not talking about being selfish. I’m talking about setting boundaries and treating your body was love and respect. And a lot of people treat their bodies like there, the trashcan basically, you know, putting mindlessly eating and putting all kinds of things that deplete your energy system. So it’s very difficult to have energy, to, to focus on the things that bring you joy, right? So most people actually will do things to num whether its sort of drinking or diet or whatever it is that we’re doing or any kind of addictive patterns, which almost everyone has.

Elena:
So again, being in alignment is aligning your body, mind, and soul, and that is treating yourself with utmost respect and love.

Christie:
That’s great. So yeah. So what kind of things do you see in someone’s biofield like, how does your gift work? Like I’m super curious. Everyone has spiritual gifts and everyone has spiritual senses. Right. It’s just, they appear differently. So how does it, do you feel comfortable talking to a little bit more about your gift and how it occurs for you?

Elena:
Yeah. So I can talk about how it started and then where it progressed and share that. So initially when that I left the field of working full time as a pharmacist, it was a little transition in the beginning. I began to practice energy medicine and ah, it was life-changing for me because initially I thought I was losing my mind because I started seeing and hearing things and knowing things. And it was knowing things about a person without asking them for their medical condition. And that was one thing that I told myself is I will not take the person’s medical history, which is kind of opposite of how we were trained. We would normally people fill out all the medical history, what medications they’re on.

Elena:
And I said, no, in this work, I’m going to first see what it comes to me and that they, at the end of the session, we’ll talk with the patient are the client about the findings. And what was amazing to me is everything that was coming through. It was actually happening in real life with the person that I was working with. And this is how the process of trusting myself began to happen. A lot of magical things started to appear and I call it magic because of it. When you are trained in a very linear kind of way of thinking, here’s my symptom, this is the drug. This is what I see. This is what I don’t see, whatever I don’t see. I don’t trust that. I don’t believe this is the way I was trained.

Elena:
And a shifting out of that into a reality that is so much bigger because all the information exists. And this is where I began to read and research about morphogenetic field. And if you think, and I’ll define it in my terms, the easy terms of what morphogenetic field is. So if you imagine that you, the physical U is your laptop, right? And you have a cloud space which records everything. So your cloud space we can say is your morphogenetic field. So it keeps a record of everything. All kinds of files are stored in there. And sometimes, you know, when you get offline, right, and then you go back online, you have to send to your cloud through your computer.

Elena:
So let’s say you go into your own cave and the space of being disconnected with yourself. You go through a traumatic experience. You have, I was abused your body in many ways, by the way, you’ve been eating it, perhaps taking medications or any kind of substances, you are literally offline. So you are offline and it’s very difficult for the files that are stored in your cloud to be same. So there’s all kinds of viruses that begin to infiltrate on parasites, begin to infiltrate your system, which is your computer. And it’s important to have something that can clear that up. So the viruses do not infiltrate your cloud space, right, with all the files.

Elena:
So I slowly began to transition into reading a book, the morphogenetic field. And now what I do at that years ago, I was also a reading people’s blood work stool analysis, because I still want it to see that data. I wanted to know what was happening. And then I realized a lot of times a day, the symptoms that people were experiencing, what not were not always in alignment with a blood work or the stool analysis, there, there was a gap for me and for people that we’re seeking the help, right. For seek truly seeking for the answers. So that’s what I realized the answers are actually stored in the field. And it’s really, when you begin to realize realign the field with the physical body and you remove the, then that’s when the communication happens and that’s really when a person begins to feel better.

Elena:
So now I’ve progressed to, to reading this field. Can anyone do it? I would say, if you know how to detach from outcomes, there is no expectations then. And you become just the pure channel there’s you or not. You you’re just the channel right. Then it’s, it is easy to do, but it takes a lot of practice too. You know, what is your, what is not you? A witch part of you is you have to detach from yourself. So not only detach from the outcomes, but you have to detach from yourself and at the same time to stay absolutely grounded in presence.

Elena:
So that’s the key. And I think that’s the key with a guy working with anyone in the health, in the health field. I’m sure. Especially for those that do energy medicine, it’s important to have your compassion, right. But have that compassion when, when your talking to the person, but not necessarily when you’re reading the field. And for me initially, it was really difficult because I would get fully engulfed in their field that I wouldn’t feel absolutely everything. ’cause I’m in an empath. I see a feel a sense it’s what is constant. And I knew actually it was draining me and every level and I would get exhausted.

Elena:
So also I had to learn to set boundaries of how many people per day can read it. It takes me four to five hours to read one person. So now I only take one person a day. I don’t take more than that. It’s a little different than doing energy work. Because if you do energy work, let’s say you, you were with somebody for an hour. So I used to do a 10 people a day. Now it’s just one person and reading that person.

Christie:
Wow. So, so one thing that I heard you say that was really interesting is, is clearing those files, you know, clearing the viruses out. Okay. Let’s say someone wanted to start opening up their Intuition. You know, you definitely have to do the inner work on yourself before you can turn to help others. Like, just like your saying. So what are some of the steps that someone can take to start decluttering, to start clearing out their own field so that they can be that clear chain?

Elena:
Yes. I would say so many people want to be healers. And number one thing to recognize is as a practitioner, you’re not healing anyone. This is the one rule. You’re not fixing anyone. You’re not attaching to the outcome of anything that happens. But first you need to clear yourself and how that is is you have to become the Healer yourself for yourself. So that means you have to clear out your diet. You have to clear out any kind of emotional blocks that you have. You have to work on yourself. Daily whether it’s also a physical movement, meditation, whatever it might be, you have to fully commit to, to yourself a a hundred percent.

Christie:
Yeah, that’s really good. And, and what you said, it is so true. Like I think there’s a lot of people out there that we want to be healers or who are healers and they think they’re the ones doing the healing and that’s so not true. So who is doing the healing,

Elena:
The person who is doing the healing on themselves, all you’re doing is a practitioner’s redirecting their energy flow. That’s you know, to me, what I also recognize because initially I had my traditional medical training and then the energy medicine, and I recognize that two worlds can not exist separate it’s together. And for somebody who truly wants to be the practitioner, right, or the intuitive, you have to respect the body, you have to understand the anatomy and physiology of the body. It’s the same thing as if you’re going to see a medical doctor, and they’re just focusing on your physical body and disregard your emotional state of being and your spiritual aspects. It, same thing that the person who is working on you spiritually does not have the respect and understanding a true understanding and knowledge of what’s happening on a physical level.

Elena:
To me, those worlds come together because this is a holistic approach. You’re a wholistic being, you are this giant being there is not just, you know, it’s not like your operating just with the, I don’t know your torso, you are operating as a whole. Being right. It’s crucial to address the entire being. In a lot of times, I see that people are either doing one or the other and they’re not learning both. So I encourage for those people that are truly wanting to be healers. And again, remember, they’re not the healers, but are for wanting to work in the art of healing, healing arts, and you have to really study the human anatomy and physiology. I think that’s crucial.

Elena:
And a, perhaps a traditional Chinese medicine acupuncture as well. I think that that will give you a much deeper understanding of how energy flows truly flows. It’s not superficial reality of just working on the shoppers or just working in the field with the hands. There is a lot more layers to that than we can ever imagine. And it is the soul anatomy, a quality of our entire Being is much bigger than our physical anatomy. And that is the anatomy that I’m hoping a medical sciences are going to begin to address in a much bigger way.

Christie:
I sure hope so that wouldn’t, that be a great future. And we would, we would have to have so much progress and innovation and cures for diseases and things like that.

Elena:
I wanted to also say something. I actually heard something interesting, but in the future, the doctors are going to become obsolete because robots, AI will take over it because it’s very easy to diagnose a and say, okay, well, these are my symptoms. Here’s the pill. But the one thing that the AI cannot do is have the empathy and nurturing the humans human heart has. So this is going to be a redefined I’m sure in the next 10 years, the other important thing that you just said is most people are seeking for cures. And this is the biggest, biggest paradigm shift that has to happen. And I asked this to everyone of my patients and clients.

Elena:
What is the difference between cure and healing? QR is when you say, will you give you a power away? Number one, because you seek for the magic pill for the vaccine, for the doctor, for the therapist, for the coach to fix, you do to make your problem go away. I used to have many years ago, people come to me and say, well, my doctor send me to you. So fix me here. I am fixed me. So I had to quickly learn. I’m not here to fix, but the healing parts is where the person that takes full responsibility for what brought them into the now, right? With all of the goodies that they’ve brought in all of the life experiences, emotions that they’ve had to live with and into the now and utilizing your practitioners, your coach’s, your doctors, your therapist’s as part of your team, your part of your guidance team.

Elena:
’cause all of us are truly just guides and the person has to become the master and therefore healing begins inside. So that’s a paradigm shift it has to happen is that everyone is seeking for the magic pill for the cure, but there’s really no such thing. ’cause we have to address our diet, our mindset and everything else.

Christie:
Yeah, totally, totally agree. And that’s true for anything that’s even true for business. You know, I’ve, I’ve worked with people that come to me and they want a magic pill for marketing, you know, but there might be other things that they need to do in their business before they can really be truly successful. Maybe it’s, you know, innovating, maybe it’s actually aligning to their purpose, but yeah, it is. It’s, I think that’s true for it for pretty much, you know, everything, right. There is no such thing as the magic pill. So, you know, it was really good.

Elena:
The more, you know, they don’t want to do the work that they want. I call it the spiritual bypass, you know, there’s everybody not on there on the majority of people are seeking, okay, we’ll give me something. Whether it’s natural, not natural plant medicine, whatever it may be. I want to escape into something where I don’t have to have the journey of how I got there while the journey is the magic. It’s not the outcome. And that’s the one thing that people are forgetting, whether it’s health-related business-related, whatever it might be. And I can tell you, I wouldn’t be where I am today without having the experience and the gifts that every single person I worked with, that brother Wisdom brought their, their own hardship and their own issues.

Elena:
And because of those issues and whatever, they’ve been experienced, experiencing a much, a better practitioner because of that, I couldn’t do it just by reading books. Reading books is not going to get you anywhere.

Christie:
Yeah, totally. So true. Yeah. That hands-on experience and not necessarily literally on your case, but yeah, it is so important for sure. Okay. So I, I would like to shift our conversation and talk a little bit more about what we first opened up with M when it came to what you’ve seen with clients, you know, in your own story with the fear of success and what it boils down to is really the fear of being seen. So, and we know that like one of the number one fears that people have is speaking public speaking, right. And that’s the ultimate of being seen, but what are some, what are, well, you could talk about the path that you took or what you’ve seen in some of your clients, but what are some of those baby steps that we can start taking?

Christie:
If we know, well, first of all, how do we even know that we’re supposed to be, Seen like, maybe were just, you know, like, is there some innate desire to be seen, but we were just like, you know, brushing it under the rug or how do we know that is part of our destiny anyway, and then how do we get there?

Elena:
So that is such great questions. I’m thinking about myself and my journey. And I can share that with you. For me. I remember that I was always had this desire and passion to share something with people to bring light to certain information. But then I always thought, well, maybe I’m not educated enough. Maybe I’m not experienced enough. And again, I went to a pharmacy school board certified in functional medicine, kept telling myself, I don’t know enough, or maybe what I have to say is not important enough. And I remember talking to my girlfriends who was a physician’s, she went through a pretty similar journey and we kept seeing all these health coaches coming out and they’re like on podcasts and radio shows and putting themselves out there and we had it and it was, it was amazing to me, the complex of I’m not good enough.

Elena:
And that was kind of one of the first things that I had to overcome is, well, perhaps I do have enough information to share, and I actually have been in the trenches working with people. And so it, it, I would say is having the courage to really speak what is, what is important to you. If you have an important message to share trust that it’s meant to be shared. And sometimes perhaps you do need a friend or two that are going to kind of push you in that direction. I remember I had this one girlfriend and I was so afraid of doing Facebook lives. And of course now I do them almost everyday and she put the camera in front of me.

Elena:
She was like, we’re live right now. So what, what do I do now? We are alive. Like, she literally did that to me, but that was the best thing ’cause she could talking about it. We actually went to a speaking class. Like we took a weekend course somewhere in public speaking. And even after that, I was so afraid to do it, but she just started doing it. And then she is like, you know what, here it’s live your life. Now, what do you have to say? This is sometimes it takes a great friend that is going to cheer for you and encourage you to step into, into your power, into your lights, into your own life and for you not to be afraid of it.

Elena:
So if you can surround yourself with friends and people who love you and who Fear for you, I think it’s crucial.

Christie:
Yeah. So true. So developing that muscle of, of accepting and loving yourself, do you have any practices? I mean, that’s so like abstract for people, you know, if you spend most of your day thinking, you know, picking at yourself, you probably don’t even realize you’re doing it until you become more aware of it. Right. So do you have a simple practice that you’ve done to help cultivate that self love?

Elena:
Yeah, I’m just trying to think. I think for me it was not the lack of self-love, but it was truly fear of public speaking. That was my big fear of public speaking and being Seen like, I was like, wow, I’m seeing this. It comes with such a huge responsibility in my ready to really have this responsibility. That was a huge fear of mine. And I would say what started helping me is I decided, okay, I’m going to start booking, speaking engagements and teaching classes. And that helped me overcome the fear. Remember the first class I had to teach, I kept recording myself with my phone and then I would set up a, my kids that would have my kids sit on the couch and pretend that they’re in the audience.

Elena:
And it, I remember how scary it was for me to even speak and teach in front of my children. What should it be? So natural? Right. Well, the top of that, that was a huge fear for me and then recording myself over and over and over. And I would say that that helps me. So if you are going to be afraid and not take action, you’re actually going to hold yourself back and the opportunities that will present themselves to you. So I would say I have the courage too, even if you’re your biggest fear, which, you know, that was from me. I still made a decision to move forward because I felt that the message was really important to shift many people’s lives.

Christie:
Sure. Well, so just to tie this back to childhood, did you find that there were any patterns or anything that kind of set your, set you up into this pattern of not wanting to be seen? Like what did you discover or was there anything in your store?

Elena:
Your you’re a really good at asking questions. Couple of things I discovered, well, first of all, I grew up in Soviet union, former Soviet union, and I was on a rhythmic gymnastics team. I trained in an Olympic facility. I don’t know if you know what rhythmic gymnastics is. So I trained 35 to 40 hours a week. And when we had to do to have competitions, of course you are in your leotard and you have to go solo on the floor, right on the map. And you, as it goes on, lets say for a minute and a half, when you have to do Your, whatever it is, you have to do your routine.

Elena:
And for me it was one of the most uncomfortable things. And I’ll explain to you why? Because I trained in the Soviet Olympic a facility, it was extremely abusive, which actually is a story that I’ve never shared with anyone. So you were in the first one. Yeah. How cool we got an exclusive, we had a list of all of our names and they put our weights up every single day. So we had to be weighed before practice and after practice. And then they had a stand in front of the mirror as a group and they will point out everything that is wrong with you. Whoa. Everything. And this is just to give you an example of, with me gymnastics in Soviet union, he was so competitive.

Elena:
Everybody had to be skinny. You weren’t allowed to eat. Actually we weren’t even allowed to drink water. My girlfriend and I used to, I remember cause we have to sweat six to seven hours a day. Right? You couldn’t sweat because you’re a dehydrated so that they would watch us to go to the bathroom. And then on the way back, they would check her mouth to make sure that we didn’t drink water well. And they would say, and then they would yell at you because you’re not sweating enough on the floor. So it was, there was so much, I’m like so grateful. I don’t have an eating disorder. I love food on that. But it was like everyday weighing, if you gained a pound, you were not allowed to go to competitions and a As. Yeah. There’s a lot of things I can share about that.

Elena:
And then of course, when you go and sit on the floor and it’s a competition, right? You were in the middle of it. You are so self conscious, like, because they’ve programmed us that there’s always something wrong with you, right? Whether it’s skin hanging somewhere or whatever it might be, you’re not pointing your toe enough. You’re not keeping your arms straight enough. So yeah, that was definitely ingrained in me as a child, but it was so different at my home because my parents brought so much love. And of course I was never a child to complain because I never want it to disappoint anyone. So I had these two realities of having a very competitive sport where there was a lot of emotional abuse, right.

Elena:
Where you’re never good enough in that home. Of course, when it was fueled, was left. And I think perhaps for this is where the fear of being Seen King came and also a fear of speaking my truth because I held it for many, many years and I didn’t share cetera with a couple of my girlfriends than it did it with me together. We went through this journey together.

Christie:
Wow. That is so powerful. Yeah. And I mean, so real because a lot of us have these buried stories within us that are literally in the cells of our bodies and the biofield, which you read. And, and until we heal them, we do, we keep running on the same story. Right. We keep, we keep doing the same things. And so yeah. I mean the pivotal point for you, you know, and, and being seen, I mean, thank you for sharing all this. This is definitely helpful for a lot of people out there.

Christie:
And for people who think, Oh, you know, I don’t really want to look at that. You know? So some people have really painful traumas, you know, and even the little traumas, even if you wouldn’t even consider it trauma, you know, it’s just someone looked at you funny one time they, they pile up until you, until you deal with them,

Elena:
The courage to, to step into your truth. And one thing, yes, I went through that experience as a child than a teenager. One thing it had taught me, even though there was all this crazy emotional abuse, right. I would say probably physical too, because we weren’t, I mean, they would slap us and all kinds of things, but what was, what it taught me also, when it was time to stand and go perform, right? You have to literally shut your mind off and not allow all the abuse and all the negativity of her day in and day out, every single day, we were training six to seven days a week.

Elena:
Right. So you have to shut all that off in order for you to perform and do your best on the floor, right? Whether it’s the ribbon ball hoops. So you don’t drop your equipment because it’s very easy to get trapped into in that is to somehow I think for me, my survival mechanism, kick 10. And I said, okay, I’m not, I’m no longer going to stay silent. And therefore I will pursue what is important to me. What is in alignment with my love, with who I am. And it took a couple of my friends to put me live on camera. And then I said, okay, I’m going to start teaching and sharing my work with other people because it’s important.

Christie:
And we’re so glad that you did ’cause all of us could still be hidden unless you took those steps. So for those of you listening, I mean, if, if, if any, this rings true,

Elena:
You know, the time the time to do the work is now people are waiting for you, you know, to, to, to bless in light of this world. So thank you for being on the show. How can, how can people get to know more about your work? And then once you tell us that, why don’t you also end with a final thought or inspiring moment at the end? Yes. So the best way to connect with me is through my website. Wholistic dot com, w H O L I S T I a C. And you can send me an e-mail and something for me, for me to share it with all of you, even at the moments, when you doubt yourself, just connect to your heart, be authentic and be live and shine bright.